A conversation most people never expected him to have.We speak about debt, family, and what it really costs to build something that lasts.He spent 24 years inside his father's business before he was handed the keys. Then he borrowed at a scale that scared people and built a half a billion dollar empire.But the most powerful moment had nothing to do with money. It was a man sitting next to his son, realising that nothing he had ever built could fix what was in front of him.This is a story about what wealth costs.